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Episode 14 - Failuretopia
Posted: 26 February 2008 09:55 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Ugh.. All it took was 2 weeks of downtime and we completely forgot how to do a show. This week I destroy Diary of the Dead and slightly praise The Signal. Our features this week are Pieces and the double feature DVD of The Toybox/Toys are not for Children.

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Posted: 27 February 2008 01:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Ignore any suggestion I make about Eli Roth in this episode because what I said I heard is way, way off.

REDACTED!

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Posted: 27 February 2008 02:25 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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HAY GUISE DID U NO THOSE GIALLOHZ ARE GUNNA BE RELEEZED?

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Posted: 27 February 2008 05:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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DZ - 27 February 2008 01:37 AM

Ignore any suggestion I make about Eli Roth in this episode because what I said I heard is way, way off.

REDACTED!

I was gonna say - I think he’s from Newton, MA which is only about 20 miles away from me. And I live in the town where Dane Cook is from as well.  I’m underwhelmed by both of these facts.

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Posted: 27 February 2008 09:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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You have a lot to live down then. I don’t really have a problem with Roth, but Cook is not funny and I feel my brain shrink whenever I see him. Do you have any idea what it’s like to feel your gray matter shrivel inside your skull? It’s not pretty.

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Posted: 01 March 2008 03:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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the signal was way better than i expected

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Posted: 04 March 2008 12:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Listened to the latest ep, and I’ve got to throw into the pot, regarding George Romero.

In all honesty if you look at most of the directors who have given us the ‘classic’ standards of the horror genre, every one of them has shit the bed in one way or another with less than favorable films. Some are more guilty than others, but nobody has walked away unscathed without dropping a few bum crumbs along the path. Even guys like Cronenberg put out a few bombs like Spider, and M Butterfly.

Now, i’m not making any excuses for Romero, or for anybody else for that matter. On the contrary, I think that directors should be recognized for their current projects, and not just the ‘Classics’.
For every ‘Bruiser’ that George gave us, he also gave us ‘Martin’. I can think of 5 Romero films that stand on their own, albeit there’s more i’d rather forget. Which brings us to Diary Of The Dead…..

In a recent interview Romero had said that the entire process of shooting ‘Land Of The Dead’ was a pain in the ass. He was under the gun with both the budget, and studio deadline, but still managed to put out a film that was fair to middling, considering the circumstance.

George then goes on to say that he wanted to return to shooting a picture with a smaller crew, at his own pace,etc, and that’s how Diary Of The Dead came to fruition.

Now seeing as that all the factors seemed to had fallen in place for Romero, you would have figured that he’d be firing on all cylinders, and deliver the goods. Unfortunately, such was NOT the case, and there’s no excuse whatsoever that can explain why Diary turned out to be such a rancid pool of bubbling asswater.

George said that he wanted to return to his, ‘roots’, but I can’t remember Night Of The Living Dead ever being this flaccid, and pedestrian. If I hadn’t known better, I would sworn that someone else had directed this, and George had just been given a credit as an exec producer.

It bothers me that Romero has said several times that he considers his audience and ‘horror fans’ to be intelligent, and on the ball. All throughout Diary I felt like Romero was under the impression he was making a film for smurfin idiots. I don’t feel the need to be pimp slapped with messages, and ideologies in a film, regardless on whether I agree with it or not.

The characters were as stale as week old bread, and it was an endurance test to wait to watch them get picked off. While the KNB effects were great, it was a matter of too little to late.

All in all, even though I really loathed Diary, I still haven’t lost my support in George and any project he decides to take on. Instead of putting down the camera, maybe George needs to step away from the whole ‘Dead’ subgenre, and try to do something eclectic like he did with Martin, and Knightriders. I just fear that a ‘Diary’ sequel will only leave fresh skidmarks.

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Posted: 04 March 2008 12:32 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Ghetto-Tim - 04 March 2008 12:14 AM

It bothers me that Romero has said several times that he considers his audience and ‘horror fans’ to be intelligent, and on the ball. All throughout Diary I felt like Romero was under the impression he was making a film for smurfin idiots. I don’t feel the need to be pimp slapped with messages, and ideologies in a film, regardless on whether I agree with it or not. 

See, I don’t think Romero was talking down to us with this effort.  I’m sure he THOUGHT he was putting things across in a normal fashion, but todays “tech-savvy, at-risk, youth” don’t need it spoon fed to them.

George Romero is no longer in-tune enough with the world to deliver social commentary.

Now that I think about it Tim, maybe he doesn’t need to hang up his camera. Maybe he just needs to go in a different direction.

But how likely is that?

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Posted: 04 March 2008 07:30 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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First of all…..just started listening to your podcast with Ep 13 and I really dig it. I’m going to have to go back and catch up with the first 12, I think. Having said that, I’m going to have to go ahead and disagree a bit on Diary of the Dead.

I don’t think it was a great film, but I do there were some redeeming moments. The main problem is that Romero just couldn’t pull off the style - integrating the handheld, first-person camera into the action was clumsy and contrived most of the time. And the script was pretty bad, full of cheesy dialog and one-dimentional characters. But I think he does succeed, at times, with creating the chaotic, panicked feeling of the world going to crap. I think the compiled news footage probably contributes more to this than the actual narrative, but I did get the feeling of impending apocalypse that I like in my zombie movies. And I think some of the scenes worked from a purely entertainment point of view.

I think some of your complaints - particularly the “why would someone go to myspace for news?” - were probably intentional, meant as part of the social commentary that comes across awkwardly. But I don’t think blunt satire is something new for Romero. As much as I love Dawn of the Dead, I don’t think that a bunch of mindless zombies wandering in a shopping mall is particularly subtle.

I’m not going to defend this movie too much, but I think it might be worth watching on DVD for those people who are on the fence about seeing it. It’s nowhere near the quality of the early Romero films, but given the choice between rewatching Land of the Dead or Diary of the Dead, I think I’d have to pick Diary.

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Posted: 04 March 2008 08:12 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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In the interest of not starting off by kicking each other in the nuts, Welcome to the Legion, Matimus!

Now with that out of the way, the Myspace thing was not satire, it was a plug. Diary is featured all over Myspace. No one looks to it for news and if he was attempting to make a comment on the state of the youth in my opinion it failed miserably.

Ben opposing Harry Cooper in “Night of the Living Dead” (while not intentionally speaking about the civil rights struggle because his race was never mentioned in the script.) is representative of the change happening in our country at that time. (opposition to vietnam, the erosion of the “old” morality)

Our group of heroes refusing to leave the mall and trying to defend their stuff / the mindless masses flocking to the mall is slightly less metaphoric but nonetheless very effective and poignant.

“Day of the Dead” is especially poignant today with Captain Rhodes and his out of control war machine.

Diary just seriously spells it out over and over again. The acting was awful and combined with the heavy-handed and awkward exposition it was just not easy to watch.

Land has Asia Argento AND Tom Savini in it.

I don’t know.

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Posted: 04 March 2008 10:12 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Thanks for not kicking me in the nuts too hard this time. Like I said, I’m not going to go to great lengths defending Diary , because I didn’t love it, and it definitely doesn’t compare with the earlier Romero stuff. But after hearing you tell everyone that it’s not worth watching at all ever, I just had to offer up that it might be worth someone’s time.

Then again, I also like Day of the Dead better than Dawn of the Dead, which instantly disqualifies my opinion in some people’s eyes, so take what I say with a grain of salt.

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Posted: 05 March 2008 02:10 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Also keep in mind Romero used myspace like a lot of studios to support a film. In fact his contest for a DVD bonus feature is found through the Diary of the Dead myspace page.

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