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I’ve been listening to your excellent show for a long time now. First of all I would like to congratulate you guys, you have been consistent, funny, educational and tasty. Kudos to you!
It’s amazing how you’ve covered almost every movie from the genres I’m fond of. And thanks to your recommendations I’ve watched great films I didn´t know at all.

Having said that, what always intrigued me -knowing your love for Italian cinema- is why you’ve never attempted to cover Pasolini’s films (I even recall F13 mentioned Salò on one chapter but clearly stated he will not cover it), I agree his movies aren´t for everyone but so is your show.

I’ve always thought of Cinema Diabolica to be oriented to an audience who thinks, not the regular people who go to a theater and sit there for a couple of hours and get out thinking and feeling just the way they did when they got in; but for anyone who understands a movie by its aesthetic look, the story that is being told, repercussions it may impact on the viewers and for that social criticism some directors introduce on their work.

You are now entrusted by your audience (us) on how to expand our cinema knowledge, on how to complete our criteria and, in some cases, reviving memories of movies we saw a long time ago and otherwise will be lost in oblivion.

We have strong stomachs, we’ve watched cannibalism, injustice, supernatural stuff reflected on the films you’ve covered; please don’t underestimate us. I believe the audience will tolerate and appreciate a film like Salò (of course feeling sick by the worst side of human nature portrayed there) and I believe the outcome of that will be positive, come on, you even covered Visitor Q which is heavily influenced on Pasolini’s Teorema.

I am not a hardcore Pasolini fan, actually I’ve only seen three of his movies, but I’ve found Teorema and Salò deeply disturbing and mind challenging, and hey, isn´t that everything we´re looking for when tunning your podcast?

F13, you are great, funny, intelligent and entertaining podcaster. DZ you are smart, sober, have great insight and you guys are perfect working with each other (of course I’ve also enjoyed the special guests). Remember that you are now opinion leaders…and with great power comes great responsibility.

I am eager to hear from you guys, hopefully on your show.

Peace

P.S. Forgive my English, it’s not my first language.

I would be interested in hearing about some of his other films. We all know about Salo, but he made a smurfin load of movies iirc. I wouldn’t know where to begin.

paracinema magazine had a good article about him in issue 2

Wow, Jerrywacky, I’m stunned. I wasn’t expecting such a thoughtful request when I opened this thread. Thank you. You english is better than most Americans by the way.

I’m willing to watch some Pasolini. I have to give credit to a guy who made me feel dirty and a little sick from Salo.

Some Pasolini films I would like to cover;
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064828/ Cannibalism!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066065/ It’s about mythology!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063678/ Mostly because of Terence Stamp.

This list feels like a good range of genre and story. If half as much effort and energy were put into these films as Salo than I expect to remember them for a long time.

Teorema is a great film, Terence Stamp delivers such a good performance although he has little dialog on this one. Which makes me think…he doesn’t speak much on his movies, he lets his body language do most of the work…Kneel before Zod!!!

Hadn’t heard of the other two movies, but from the synopses and comments I´ve read they look great! The other Pasolini film I’ve seen is “The Gospel according to St. Matthew” and boy, that’s the best portrayal of Jesus as a flawed (yes, flawed) human which makes him much more reachable and understandable. Another attempt to portray a “human” Jesus is “The last temptation of Christ” but it fails as it tries too hard to be controversial. I’d expect “Medea” to be a good movie just like “The Gospel”, I mean, being an atheist, directing a religious film would be like directing a mythology one right?

pickleloaf - 08 March 2009 05:10 PM

paracinema magazine had a good article about him in issue 2

Thanks btw :)

First things first:
Thank you SO much for such a well thought out and insightful post! You really opened my eyes to some things I had not really realized before.

So, the story about good ol pier paolo is a short one. One day DZ borrowed Salo and I said “hey hey are you sure about that? That one’s not for the faint of heart” and he said “I’m sure it’ll be fine” Come the next show he throws the DVD at me and says “DAMN YOU FOR NOT WARNING ME” I reply “I DID!” and he says “NOT WELL ENOUGH” and that was pretty much it.
Due to your request and awesome post there will be a Pasolini episode of Diabolical Directors and I will add his films to the mix.
(See? I’m not unreasonable!)

2 posts in and you already spawned an entire episode! nice! i’m over 200 and haven’t done much besides watch a lot of stuff everyone already knows about haha

I do remember the scene playing out that way too, F13. When you warned me originally I kept thinking it can’t be too bad considering the films we cover and have talked about covering. Salo is a different beast and I don’t think you could have warned me enough. Besides, how often does a warning turn into an enticement? I was warned about Men Behind the Sun and I wasn’t too offended. I guess Italians know the right buttons to push.

Don’t think we haven’t taken notice of the movies you write about, PickleLoaf. Don’t be surprised by future episodes covering things you’ve seen.

Personally, I like to look for the stuff I’ve never heard anyone talk about, though I do understand the merit of covering familiar ground too. Comparisons are important in establishing credibility mutal understanding.

I think writing this at work is starting to affect my posting tone.

the thing with me, as i’ve said in a wordy email to ggtmc a couple weeks ago, i’m coming at a majority of this from fresh eyes.

when i started listening to you guys last year, i started keeping a list of all the movies i wanted to see. i remember sitting in my car during a lunch break listening to your very first episode writing down all the stuff that i just needed to check out probably for the first time from your top ten lists. films by argento or martino or fulci or bava - that stuff wasn’t even on my radar anymore

just like i had to go back and power through so many past episodes of your shows, i am still pwering through a ton of films that i feel like i missed out on for whatever reason. i want to keep building my base so to speak

so it’s fine by me that i am writing here about stuff everyone here has seen already. i feel like i have a lot to catch up on, and it’s awesome.

sorry…

back to pasolini…

Ha ha! Thank you guys!

It’s so good you’ve agreed on putting Paolo on an episode of your upcoming show. Can’t wait to hear it. And yeah, I’m with DZ that Italians know how to be disturbing when they intend to. My great grand parents were Italian and I’ve been told that my great grand father used to scare the shit out of my grandpa (seeing a picture of him reminds me the chapter of Family Guy when Peter thinks he can speak italian just because he grew a mustache…sooo funny!).

First time I saw Salo I got sick, literally my stomach couldn’t take it. I though it was a mere coincidence but then I invited a friend to watch it again and we both got sick. I own the DVD but haven’t watched it a third time.

Anyway, be sure to include facts like how he made use of non experienced actors on his films (for whatever reason) and his mysterious death. There’s a lame documentary on the DVD that talks about all the circumstances around it, even theorizes about some extra footage from Salo that was stolen.

Thanks again for everything. You rock!