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Seriously, I just don’t get it.  There are a wealth of great X-men stories out there and when we finally get a Wolverine movie, they shovel out this garbage?  They turned Deadpool into Adam from Buffy for god’s sake!!  What really kills me is I really liked Liev as Sabretooth, a LOT.  He brought an intelligence and ferocity to the character that was sorely lacking from the first X film.  I even got a giggle out of what they did with Blob, if only because I have always thought that character was ignorant.  Gambit?  Wasted.  You don’t give a cameo to a character with enough charisma and backstory to carry his own film.  You give cameos to Colossus or Toad, but not freaking Gambit.  That’d be like doing an X-men movie and having Lady Deathstryke be a voiceless assassin with no connection to Wolverine.  Oh wait, they did that.

Yeah, can’t say I ever had any interest in seeing Wolverine. Or any of the X-Men movies, really.

Naked Eskimo - 21 September 2009 09:51 PM

They turned Deadpool into Adam from Buffy for god’s sake!!

Yeah they messed Deadpool up pretty bad. But if Fox decides to do a Deadpool spinoff and have some balls, the teaser trailer should consist of footage from X-Men Origins: Wolverine highlighting the suckage and butchering of the character and than at the end have Ryan Reynolds dressed in full Deadpool regalia slice the screen, step out and tell the audience how shit that movie was and that this upcoming Deadpool movie would be nothing like it. If you think about it, you can have so much fun with a Deadpool movie. So much potential.

TonyHex - 21 September 2009 10:22 PM

Yeah, can’t say I ever had any interest in seeing Wolverine. Or any of the X-Men movies, really.

understandable.  in the 80s and early 90s, some of the best comic stories being written were in the X-men books.  marvel have successfully run them fully into the ground, though.  I mean, dear god, how many X-universe books are there, these days?

Rufio - 22 September 2009 12:36 PM

Yeah they messed Deadpool up pretty bad. But if Fox decides to do a Deadpool spinoff and have some balls, the teaser trailer should consist of footage from X-Men Origins: Wolverine highlighting the suckage and butchering of the character and than at the end have Ryan Reynolds dressed in full Deadpool regalia slice the screen, step out and tell the audience how shit that movie was and that this upcoming Deadpool movie would be nothing like it. If you think about it, you can have so much fun with a Deadpool movie. So much potential.

I was really excited when I heard Ryan got the role.  He was born to play that character and they, again, completely threw him away.

The premise behind X-Men has never seemed all that interesting to me. I’m not a fan of superhero teams.

TonyHex - 22 September 2009 10:46 PM

The premise behind X-Men has never seemed all that interesting to me. I’m not a fan of superhero teams.

The racism metaphor was a lot more relevant in the 60s and 70s (even the 80s) than it is now.  The whole idea of Mutants being these misunderstood, hated and outcast humans with amazing abilities was absolutely fascinating to me.  X-men were the polar opposite to pretty much every other superhero comic around at the time they came out, because unlike Superman or Batman, the public at large wasn’t really all that happy when they got involved.  It’s the main reason the X-men, as a “team”, always worked for me.  It wasn’t “let’s team up and save the world, guys!”, it was “dude, everyone hates us, a lot of them want to kill us, let’s stick together for our own sake”.  That premise was really easy for me to swallow.

I suppose that’s a little different than the kind of thing I’m talking about.