In this episode we talk about rumors that Gail Simone might be writing Wonder Woman soon, and about Avengers: the Initiative and the most recent issue of New Excalibur. There were many beers.
Oh, by the way, Captain America Jr. isn’t his codename. It’s MVP, I believe. I do like what I’ll see from the new characters of Komodo and Cloud 9 , they’re refreshing characters.
I really liked the Initiative as well, though i really don’t see what it has to do wtih the Avengers except for shamelessly trying to capitilze on their current success.
i think if I’d bought that book blind because of the huge Avengers logo and the picture of Iron Man on the cover, i might have felt misled. I just hope people don’t leave disappointed because i’d like to see where this series goes.
Well, I like what I see so far. The more “Avengers” like characters of Yellowjacket, She-Hulk, and Justice are helping out. Rage, a former Avenger, makes an appearance in the issue. And Dan Slott says charactrers like Stingray and Hellcat, the more obscure Avengers, will have a role in the Initiative book. And, I enjoy how it looks like the book will connect to the Marvel Universe. Although I hate the Gauntlet character, I am in anticipation because Danielle Moonstar is solicited to help Trauma out with his powers, which I find as smart writing by Slott, as Dani was a former SHIELD agent as well.
I agree completely with the “smurfin Civil War, but the Initiative could be good” concept. From the first glimpse that I had of the Initiative, I was wishing that they’d gone straight from the Registration Act to the Initiative without all that garbage in between. It was obvious where they were going, it made sense in terms of the evolution of Earth-616, and it promised lots of bright new shiny-s to play with. But then we had to wait through months of CW crap, with a sucky ending, and watch the dick-ification of Iron Man (no, not the good kind) in the process.
I’m also a sucker for training stories. The original X-men, the New Mutants, Strike Force: Morituri, anything like that tends to work for me. So I loved the issue, and I’m very hopeful for the future stories….
Great show fellow podcasters! Sorry I couldn’t make it, but I figured subject our listeners to my nasal congestion would have been not awesome. Brava! I gotta go get me some Initiative.
Great episode again.
Have to agree about Claremont on X-Men. He’s telling the same old story again and again.
Where I use to buy anything with his name on it, I’ve reached a point where I just avoid it.
Back when the first X-Men movie came out—the comics should have been as easily access for new readers as possible, instead he was in the middle of a jumbled story-arc with the X-Men in completely different uniforms. How could new readers hope to figure everyone out when long time readers couldn’t?
And worse than being confusing—they were UGH-LEY!
With Jodi on Wonder Woman, her first interview indicated she was only writing 5 issues. I remember some of the fans complaining that the WW relaunch was getting 2 short celebrity storylines instead of an ongoing commitment.
I haven’t listened to the podcast yet so I’m sorry if I’m talking out of my ass but then again it’s Wednesday so it’s ok. In terms of CC on X-Men during movie one… i think all of that was a crock of crap. This is when I, rather this was right AFTER i had begun the slippery slope of losing faith in comic books (thank GOD for Ultimate Spider-Man it’s the only book I enjoyed reading for about 3 years). Marvel hyped Chris’s return to the X-Men, gave him the latitude to tell his story, hyped the movie and then BLAMED him for because some of the gen pop that went to the didn’t pick up the book. OK i gave the Marvel people a little latitude, because this is the first time they had a successful movie from an on-going comic series. Blade does NOT count because he hasn’t been able to support a series. Poeple that are willing to buy a movie ticket are the same people that will bang into a comic shop and pick up a book. As far as I’ve heard there’s no sales tread to really solidify the statement: high ticket sales = spike in comic sales. The editors should have reigned him in and said to the idea or no to the idea. What they did was said no AFTER the issues hit the public and made him change half of his plotlines. I still wanted to see where he was going. I was intensely curious with what was going on with Kitty and the rest of the team. Do i have criticisms..yep. I think Jean should have been a darker character coming out watching her husband sacrifice himself and having her mentor and friends do nothing to try and rescue him. I think Rogue and Gambit as team leaders wasn’t wise. And yeah some of the costume designs weren’t great. Brett probably slightly remembers that even as loyal to CC as I am, I was PISSED trying to read through some of it. then i learned how hard editorial came down on him and how they neutered the majority of his plotlines. I’m not saying that he’s faultless for not making the X-men LOOK like the movie versions, but at the same time we had 6 X-men that were used in the Movie, but 5 availible with Cyclops missing due to the previous plotline. Of course the books CAN’T look like the movie version. Ultimately, the blame for all of that was on the X-Men editor and Bob Harras who was editor-in-chief and as you all know he wasn’t editor-in-chief to much longer after that.
yeah I kinda ranted. it’s the one period of x-men (The 12 plot through Morrison’s run) that makes me a little mental. it’s the only time i really wanted to give up buying any of them.
First off, congrats to Lindsay on the new job. I finally got out of retail myself almost a year and a half ago and made the transition to the office world and I love it. I hope you do to. It kinda sucks that you finally have your schedule where you can go record the show just in time for the hiatus.
I’m going to miss the podcast while it’s on hiatus. I hope you leave us a nice big cliffhanger at the end of the Queeries show. It’s the least you guys can do..
I find it interesting that the very reason Eric is so excited about the Marvel Universe right now is the reason I’m soured on it. This whole post-Civl War era is just not doing it for me. I feel Marvel is going to end up writing themselves into a corner with it. I think it’s going to limit the types of stories they’re going to be able to tell, until everything Civil War sort of fades away and they get back to business as usual.
I find it interesting that the very reason Eric is so excited about the Marvel Universe right now is the reason I’m soured on it. This whole post-Civl War era is just not doing it for me. I feel Marvel is going to end up writing themselves into a corner with it. I think it’s going to limit the types of stories they’re going to be able to tell, until everything Civil War sort of fades away and they get back to business as usual.
-walt
Funny you should mention this…I bought The Initiative #1 last night and enjoyed the read (not as much as others did), but the thing that kept tickling the back of my mind (my behind?) was the thought that over the next year we’re going to see Iron Man and this new status quo ramped up and up and up until there’s nowhere else for IM to go, but to fall down hard. Then after the concept has been milked til the teat is hardened…Nick Fury will sweep in and take back SHIELD (of course, I also feel this whole rash of new kids has something to do with the missing “mutant energy” from House of M and the resolution to all of this will somehow inolve the Scarlet Witch…or perhaps I should say I HOPE it does).
And am I the only one who thinks the new “New Warriors” book is going to be about kids who either get kicked out of this program or go AWOL because they decide they don’t want to be “soldiers”?
From my perspective, I like the fact they’ve shaken up the status quo. They’ve “broken te rules” and changed a lot of dynamics, and that will (hopefully) open up a lot of new possibilities to tell fresh stories. Sure they may paint themselves in the corner in a few years, but in the meantime we’ll have some competely different stories to read.
While I haven’t done any kind of scientific poll, I’ve noticed some people who are excited about the new direction may have been less of a Marvel fan that DC or others. All this has caught their attention and giving things a try. They aren’t as greatly invested in some of the characters to be “offended” by what Tony Stark has done, or outraged that Cap has been “killed.”
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And am I the only one who thinks the new “New Warriors” book is going to be about kids who either get kicked out of this program or go AWOL because they decide they don’t want to be “soldiers”?
it aaaiiiinnnn’tttttt…...
i’ll give ya 2 names (if ya don’t know) Chamber and Beak.
While I haven’t done any kind of scientific poll, I’ve noticed some people who are excited about the new direction may have been less of a Marvel fan that DC or others. All this has caught their attention and giving things a try. They aren’t as greatly invested in some of the characters to be “offended” by what Tony Stark has done, or outraged that Cap has been “killed.”
Young Avengers, Civil War, and it’s aftermath allowed a DC/X-Men reader like me to get into the Marvel U in a way that I have been wanting to. I am loving the Avengers books, Ms. Marvel, and the Initative.
stevieDisme - 12 April 2007 02:15 PM
of course, I also feel this whole rash of new kids has something to do with the missing “mutant energy” from House of M and the resolution to all of this will somehow inolve the Scarlet Witch…or perhaps I should say I HOPE it does
I love the SW and hope that she returns full force soon and would love a resolution to the House of M with her, the Young Avengers, and a return to the mutant population similar to the world pre-Morrison.
Walt - 11 April 2007 06:12 PM
First off, congrats to Lindsay on the new job. I finally got out of retail myself almost a year and a half ago and made the transition to the office world and I love it. I hope you do to. It kinda sucks that you finally have your schedule where you can go record the show just in time for the hiatus.
I’m going to miss the podcast while it’s on hiatus. I hope you leave us a nice big cliffhanger at the end of the Queeries show. It’s the least you guys can do..
YEAH LINDSAY!! You GO GIRL! Am so proud of you! I hope it’s an exciting adventure!
I don’t know what I will do without my favorite cast while it’s on hiatus. The CBQ team desrves it’s break for sure. I hope it is a restorative one for all. But I will be SO JONESING for my CBQ! I love the idea of a CBQ cliffhanger!!! We can post on the forum our theories about what happened- just like the HEROES hiatus.
HowTaoBrownCow - 11 April 2007 10:43 AM
I’m also a sucker for training stories. The original X-men, the New Mutants, Strike Force: Morituri, anything like that tends to work for me. So I loved the issue, and I’m very hopeful for the future stories….
Love the Marvel training team stories. If only DC would do a training team story. I like the concept of the JSA with the history and mantle passing. I love the TT and always will. Yet, there is not the same kind of superhero training idea that has been in the Marvel U. Bring on a DC training team book, I’ll buy it!
I’m also a sucker for training stories. The original X-men, the New Mutants, Strike Force: Morituri, anything like that tends to work for me. So I loved the issue, and I’m very hopeful for the future stories….
Love the Marvel training team stories. If only DC would do a training team story. I like the concept of the JSA with the history and mantle passing. I love the TT and always will. Yet, there is not the same kind of superhero training idea that has been in the Marvel U. Bring on a DC training team book, I’ll buy it!
Well, if the original Legion of Super-Heroes ends back up in the DCU, maybe Bouncing Boy and Duo Damsel will be back training new recruits at the Legion Academy.
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And am I the only one who thinks the new “New Warriors” book is going to be about kids who either get kicked out of this program or go AWOL because they decide they don’t want to be “soldiers”?
it aaaiiiinnnn’tttttt…...
i’ll give ya 2 names (if ya don’t know) Chamber and Beak.
x a v i o r
You mean Champocolypse and Barnell (wasn’t he depowered)? Who’s writing/drawing this? hmmmm…
